COVID-19 discussion

[BenG]

On 1/6/2022 at 3:41 PM, Miaou said:

I'll do the math for you 

 

Example :

300 000 cases per day

50% less severe than Delta 

 

= still 150 000 cases with high risks, able to overwhelm the hospitals 

When people talk about "mild", it's about disease severity, not impact on the health system.

Also, that's not the right math. You're assuming all Delta infections lead to hospitalisation.

Edited January 6, 2022 by BenG

[Miaou]

we are saying it's less severe cause unlike other variants Omicron is so contagious that it's touching everyone so it's useless to use data and compare with Delta/Alpha...etc 

 it doesn't prejudice the fact that it's still the SARS COV.2 

[Miaou]

On 1/6/2022 at 4:43 PM, BenG said:

When people talk about "mild", it's about disease severity, not impact on the health system.

Also, that's not the right math. You're assuming all Delta infections lead to hospitalisation.

and then why the admissions are increasing like never before ? so there is no disease severity and people just enter in the hospitals to sing for example ? 

Edited January 6, 2022 by Miaou

[BenG]

On 1/6/2022 at 3:47 PM, Miaou said:

and then why the admissions are increasing like never before ? so there is no disease severity and people just enter in the hospitals to sing for example ? 

Because the number of cases is high. The symptoms are likely milder but transmission is likely much higher.

Edited January 6, 2022 by BenG

[Miaou]

On 1/6/2022 at 4:49 PM, BenG said:

Because the number of cases is high. The symptoms are likely milder but transmission is likely higher.

symptoms milder are not going to take people to the hospitals 

it's not a flu jesus 

[BenG]

On 1/6/2022 at 3:53 PM, Miaou said:

symptoms milder are not going to take people to the hospitals 

it's not a flu jesus 

It's not binary - symptomatic or asymptomatic. There's a range of disease severity for each variant.

[Miaou]

On 1/6/2022 at 4:59 PM, BenG said:

It's not binary - symptomatic or asymptomatic. There's a range of disease severity for each variant.

but it's still not "mild" 

maybe less than severe but Delta was already more dangerous than the first variant from Wuhan in 2020 so it means nothing 

[BenG]

On 1/6/2022 at 4:01 PM, Miaou said:

but it's still not "mild" 

maybe less than severe but Delta was already more dangerous than the first variant from Wuhan in 2020 so it means nothing 

Usually, it's the GP that says "mild". Scientists will often say "milder" or "less severe".

[Miaou]

National incidence rate : 2194 (+280) 

 

[BenG]

@Miaou, French data also has a lot of Delta mixed in.

[BenG]

17,988 patients are currently in hospital with COVID-19 in the UK, surpassing the peak during the Alpha variant wave. However, around 40% less patients are in mechanical ventilation beds.

Edited January 6, 2022 by BenG

[Miaou]

On 1/6/2022 at 5:12 PM, BenG said:

@Miaou, French data also has a lot of Delta mixed in.

not anymore

Omicron became dominant more than 2 weeks ago now so it's Omicron for sure

 

the new numbers of ICU 

+410 admissions in intensive cares in 24h vs +299 last Thursday (+37%)

the increase 

+2401 hospitalisations in 24h vs +1922 last Thursday (+24%)

 

Total : 

21 169  people at the hospitals for COVID (+481)

3 759 people in ICU (+64) 

 

a mess 

 

 

[Miaou]

ICU's admissions in France

 

tragic 

and this is only the beginning

[Miaou]

the TEA was served

 

[Paradise is in my hands PronounsShe/her]

Wrong thread.

Edited January 8, 2022 by Paradise is in my hands

[Miaou]

So Let’s do the maths

new data say that with Omicron the risk to go to the hospital is around 1% 
 

300K/400K daily cases 

3000/4000 admissions per day at the hospital aka the record of the 1st wave

 

back to the beginning  our tragic government learned nothing 

 

and new data are also saying that Delta is still with a huge « plateau » and didn’t slow down so it will be worse 

 

red = omicron

gray = delta

 

Edited January 8, 2022 by Miaou

[Miaou]

[Miaou]

another 300K+ daily cases 

[Miaou]

 

as predicted 

a mess

[Paradise is in my hands PronounsShe/her]